Comments on: Was the Death of Thamil Chelvam a Feast or a Funeral to the South? http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/ groundviews is an award winning Sri Lankan citizen journalism initiative Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:10:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Janaka Perera http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1465 Janaka Perera Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:39:01 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1465 Thamilchelvan helped L.T.T.E to kill so many people,politicians and innocent people. He did not deserve a simple sudden death. We can say that he worked for peace if had made any contribution to peace. [Edited out - it is unnecessary to insult those who are dead to drive home one's point. You are encouraged to look at the site guidelines when submitting comments in the future] Thamilchelvan helped L.T.T.E to kill so many people,politicians and innocent people. He did not deserve a simple sudden death.
We can say that he worked for peace if had made any contribution to peace.

[Edited out - it is unnecessary to insult those who are dead to drive home one's point. You are encouraged to look at the site guidelines when submitting comments in the future]

]]> By: Pippi http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1464 Pippi Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:01:26 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1464 Prior to his death whenever we saw Tamilchelvam on TV mainly during the ceasefire talks he was seen with a constant beatific grin exhuding bonhomie and endearment. Therefore i felt saddend at his death until i saw the other side of the man when shots of him with naked hatred written on his face on the battlefield were displayed. The dead cannot defend themselves and neither should they be challenged to but i think in this case we see a man who has a Jekyll and Hyde personality who chose to wreak his venom for some reason on innocent villagers and popular statesmen. If only that boyish charm (after all born in 1965 meant he was only 42 when he died) had been chanelled towards the paths of peace and reconcilation instead of division and destruction he would have left the world a better place. Anyway may he rest in peace. Prior to his death whenever we saw Tamilchelvam on TV mainly during the ceasefire talks he was seen with a constant beatific grin exhuding bonhomie and endearment. Therefore i felt saddend at his death until i saw the other side of the man when shots of him with naked hatred written on his face on the battlefield were displayed. The dead cannot defend themselves and neither should they be challenged to but i think in this case we see a man who has a Jekyll and Hyde personality who chose to wreak his venom for some reason on innocent villagers and popular statesmen. If only that boyish charm (after all born in 1965 meant he was only 42 when he died) had been chanelled towards the paths of peace and reconcilation instead of division and destruction he would have left the world a better place. Anyway may he rest in peace.

]]> By: hettiarachchi http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1463 hettiarachchi Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:16:39 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1463 Correction, (Pramadasa's Killing " should be pamasasa's death> Correction, (Pramadasa’s Killing ” should be pamasasa’s death>

]]> By: hettiarachchi http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1462 hettiarachchi Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:15:19 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1462 Pramadasa's killing enjoyed by people as they thought that further suppresion of people, murder beleived to be done by UNP was ended. Here also same. Now, We do not comment then, people has no diescrimination like tamil or sinhala among sinhala people. Wrong some thing happening would be objected. the way they express , can be wrong. the fact that any person making common mans life misarable will be disgusted. Why MR is popular than RW is RW was afeliated to BATALANDA. His condolances on LTTE or Tamils/sinheles or muslims are suspeciuos. Any PRO LTTE, knowing the real truth, they have to go ahead.as no way back from PRABA. Pramadasa’s killing enjoyed by people as they thought that further suppresion of people, murder beleived to be done by UNP was ended. Here also same. Now, We do not comment then, people has no diescrimination like tamil or sinhala among sinhala people. Wrong some thing happening would be objected. the way they express , can be wrong. the fact that any person making common mans life misarable will be disgusted. Why MR is popular than RW is RW was afeliated to BATALANDA. His condolances on LTTE or Tamils/sinheles or muslims are suspeciuos.
Any PRO LTTE, knowing the real truth, they have to go ahead.as no way back from PRABA.

]]> By: Chinthaka Perera http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1461 Chinthaka Perera Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:40:51 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1461 an unique analysis of reality....astounding to say the least..... when people start rejoicing the death of humans, the godlessness of society whacks right at you and slaps you in the face....so hard that you feel like you've lost your case.....your convictions are questioned and an utter feeling of uselessness and misery fills the air…..at the end your branded a ‘terrorist’ a ‘traitor’, a ‘Judas’, and more often than not a ‘kottiya’ On the day of late. S. P. Thamil Chelvum death, an ecstatic fan I met, ‘unquestionably on the path to enlightenment’ resounded: “api ara sathawa maruwa” (we killed that animal). The demarcation ‘US’, ‘WE’ and ‘THEM’, is dubious enough, but animal: who would have though? At first, I thought, the reference was really to an animal….then I was petrified….the reference was degrading and ungodly to say the least…..but mostly it was stark….starkly clear….starkly clear that its lost….starkly clear that humanity is lost…. The abeyant danger of celebrating based on who, what he/she did, what he/she could have done; if it hasn’t already, will surface: not in the ‘next life’ but in this one. Sri Lanka will have to face it not in its ‘next life’ but in this….what one doesn’t see is, the colloquial justification by enchanted disciples (at this juncture am not sure if their disciples of the Mahinda regime, Buddhism, war or all) saying “he had killed so many, so it was ok”, “he was a terrorist”, “there is no other way to do it”, “this is the best way”, “there was no way of bringing him to justice for what he has done but this way” and in some rare scanty cases “he was an animal”, has a reciprocal ramification on the so called ‘THEIR’ cause. Is it, as Dave Eriqat says, the end of civilization? Are we at the beginning of an era inhumane ecstasy? Who is to blame? US? THEM? GOD? MAHINDA? WAR? Or OURSELVES?.....arriving at a rather abrupt end: the act was unjustified, he ‘unjudged’ the aftermath marked by the decadence of ‘US’ at the expense of ‘THEM’…. The mild epiphany was intrinsic, visible, and in some unfortunate cases tangible….it is happening all around us. The irony of celebrating death in a ‘club’ in the capital of the Sinhalese-Buddhist center of the world swirled me to the apex of disconsolation and left me there. I am not writing convinced that ‘HE’ was a good man with a clear cause, nor is this a judgment. Its Just an expression of utmost disgust and fear: fear of the future. Personally….“where there is injustice I have always believed in fighting, the question is do you fight to change? Or do you fight to avenge?, and I would always fight to change”(Gandhi) and for me this fight is not a fight for change. It’s a fight that will perpetuate the abysmal backwardness in the relations between ‘US’ and ‘THEM’. an unique analysis of reality….astounding to say the least…..

when people start rejoicing the death of humans, the godlessness of society whacks right at you and slaps you in the face….so hard that you feel like you’ve lost your case…..your convictions are questioned and an utter feeling of uselessness and misery fills the air…..at the end your branded a ‘terrorist’ a ‘traitor’, a ‘Judas’, and more often than not a ‘kottiya’

On the day of late. S. P. Thamil Chelvum death, an ecstatic fan I met, ‘unquestionably on the path to enlightenment’ resounded: “api ara sathawa maruwa” (we killed that animal). The demarcation ‘US’, ‘WE’ and ‘THEM’, is dubious enough, but animal: who would have though? At first, I thought, the reference was really to an animal….then I was petrified….the reference was degrading and ungodly to say the least…..but mostly it was stark….starkly clear….starkly clear that its lost….starkly clear that humanity is lost….

The abeyant danger of celebrating based on who, what he/she did, what he/she could have done; if it hasn’t already, will surface: not in the ‘next life’ but in this one. Sri Lanka will have to face it not in its ‘next life’ but in this….what one doesn’t see is, the colloquial justification by enchanted disciples (at this juncture am not sure if their disciples of the Mahinda regime, Buddhism, war or all) saying “he had killed so many, so it was ok”, “he was a terrorist”, “there is no other way to do it”, “this is the best way”, “there was no way of bringing him to justice for what he has done but this way” and in some rare scanty cases “he was an animal”, has a reciprocal ramification on the so called ‘THEIR’ cause.

Is it, as Dave Eriqat says, the end of civilization? Are we at the beginning of an era inhumane ecstasy? Who is to blame? US? THEM? GOD? MAHINDA? WAR? Or OURSELVES?…..arriving at a rather abrupt end: the act was unjustified, he ‘unjudged’ the aftermath marked by the decadence of ‘US’ at the expense of ‘THEM’….

The mild epiphany was intrinsic, visible, and in some unfortunate cases tangible….it is happening all around us. The irony of celebrating death in a ‘club’ in the capital of the Sinhalese-Buddhist center of the world swirled me to the apex of disconsolation and left me there.

I am not writing convinced that ‘HE’ was a good man with a clear cause, nor is this a judgment. Its Just an expression of utmost disgust and fear: fear of the future. Personally….“where there is injustice I have always believed in fighting, the question is do you fight to change? Or do you fight to avenge?, and I would always fight to change”(Gandhi) and for me this fight is not a fight for change. It’s a fight that will perpetuate the abysmal backwardness in the relations between ‘US’ and ‘THEM’.

]]> By: lalinda palliyaguru http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1460 lalinda palliyaguru Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:10:48 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1460 when 25 people light crackers, it would look like a whole village is doing that. Iit is just a small number of people who do this kind of things, you can not say "south" did that. I know one person who lit crackers, but his two sons were killed in the battlefield, can you talk to him about ethics? There is no military solution to the ethnic problem, but the only solution to LTTE is military. Even US has understood this but they don't say it loud. LTTE political wing is there to discuss how to separate the country not to discuss how to live in unity. Killing thamilselven is important in two senses, first, sending the massege to other LTTE leaders, second, success in the military coodination. when 25 people light crackers, it would look like a whole village is doing that. Iit is just a small number of people who do this kind of things, you can not say “south” did that. I know one person who lit crackers, but his two sons were killed in the battlefield, can you talk to him about ethics? There is no military solution to the ethnic problem, but the only solution to LTTE is military. Even US has understood this but they don’t say it loud. LTTE political wing is there to discuss how to separate the country not to discuss how to live in unity. Killing thamilselven is important in two senses, first, sending the massege to other LTTE leaders, second, success in the military coodination.

]]> By: godfather http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1459 godfather Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:52:47 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1459 Thamil Chelvam is a TERRORIST . . . don't forget that Thamil Chelvam is a TERRORIST . . . don’t forget that

]]> By: suntzu http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1458 suntzu Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:46:41 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1458 Elections can be rigged, but for how long can an economy be rigged? For how long can the Government fool the majority with a few military victories? How long will the majority put up with economic hardships? The time frame given by the Government to defeat the LTTE is 2009 or there abouts. What happens if the LTTE are still alive and kicking then? Will the hawks in Sri Lanka at least then agree that this problem has no military solution? Lets wait and see...only time will tell! Elections can be rigged, but for how long can an economy be rigged? For how long can the Government fool the majority with a few military victories? How long will the majority put up with economic hardships?
The time frame given by the Government to defeat the LTTE is 2009 or there abouts. What happens if the LTTE are still alive and kicking then? Will the hawks in Sri Lanka at least then agree that this problem has no military solution?
Lets wait and see…only time will tell!

]]> By: N http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1457 N Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:33:01 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1457 I'm curious, do you think Prabhakharan can be negotiated with for an honourable peace? I’m curious, do you think Prabhakharan can be negotiated with for an honourable peace?

]]> By: Kbob http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1456 Kbob Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:57:44 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/11/13/was-the-death-of-thamil-chelvam-a-feast-or-a-funeral-to-the-south-2/#comment-1456 This article goes to show how much of an impact the conflict in SL has had in eroding our moral and religious foundations, and how it has moved us away from being the righteous society we should be. ‘Military mindset’ is the word that most accurately describes the mood in the South, and this in itself is disturbing, because it perpetuates a culture that celebrates death and destruction. Furthermore, what disturbs me is the thought that ‘winning’ this war militarily would mean victory for the idea that guns, bloodshed, and death are the best way to resolve conflicts. Such an eventuality will only harden the hearts of future generations of Sri Lankans. This article goes to show how much of an impact the conflict in SL has had in eroding our moral and religious foundations, and how it has moved us away from being the righteous society we should be. ‘Military mindset’ is the word that most accurately describes the mood in the South, and this in itself is disturbing, because it perpetuates a culture that celebrates death and destruction.

Furthermore, what disturbs me is the thought that ‘winning’ this war militarily would mean victory for the idea that guns, bloodshed, and death are the best way to resolve conflicts. Such an eventuality will only harden the hearts of future generations of Sri Lankans.

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